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madchops82

I know they accept 'stupid' deals of the day, but this is retarded. A student RK for $1500? I wonder how much they paid. Let's sell our student RK's to them and put 'em outta business. I'd sell a pristine solid crush for that cost.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Vintage-VINT-1950S-SLINGERLAND-RADIOKING-8-LUG-8-5-446-10206-104782933-i1572719.gc

lossforgain

I worked for them for awhile. Dominion #1 - pay as little as possible. The customer has to tell you first what he wants for his gear and your chore is to get him to take less. Dominion #2 - cost for resale based on what other GCs are selling similar items for and/or what they are going for on ebay. Dominion #iii - if it's a vintage slice, call the "vintage department" at the Hollywood shop and ask for a value. You will notice that the Hollywood GC prices its vintage stuff manner up there - and they expect other stores in the concatenation to get that kind of money for vintage pieces.

Not an official dominion, but I believe #4 to be - if it'south vintage, it's worth tagging for twice (at least) whatever cost you tin find on ebay, etc.

BTW Bill, sent you an email yesterday on an unrelated topic.

Bongo Congo

I know they have 'stupid' deals of the solar day, but this is retarded. A student RK for $1500? I wonder how much they paid. Let'due south sell our student RK's to them and put 'em outta business. I'd sell a pristine solid beat for that price.
http://world wide web.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Vintage-VINT-1950S-SLINGERLAND-RADIOKING-viii-LUG-8-5-446-10206-104782933-i1572719.gc

Holy crap! I have one of those in WMP I bought on eBay for $150! I must be a genius! :-D

el_37

Recently, I really contacted GC about a vintage piece. It was a rare just not very desirable Gibson Thor bass amplifier.

They had information technology marked at $480. Which is about $180-$200 more than its worth on eBay. Turns out the store that had it was only about thirty miles from me.

I call the store, talk to someone in the guitar/bass department and he tells me the amp has a problem- it keeps blowing fuses. Now, I repaired amps for a living- so this is non a minus for me. If anything it's a plus.

I then ask how much to have it as is- guy says make an offer but he has to inquire Hollywood for permission since its "vintage". I offering $175 since its broken. Hollywood wouldn't budge on the $480 price tag- fifty-fifty though it was broken.

I could non believe that every vintage purchase/sale has to get through the Hollywood store. Does not sound similar all that efficient of a system.

old_K_ride

when GC first opened in Cincinnati I ventured in to check it out.
up on a shelf in the drum department was a WMP Pioneer snare...GC price:$649.00

I questioned the cost to which the guy behind the counter informed that " they " don't make'em like that any more than and that that drum is quite rare . I told him they tin can be had @ The Chicago Show every year for $195-$250.He'd never heard of the show,btw.
I gave the guy my carte...I was Drum Detective'ing and then...and said he could call me for advice,etc,when a vintage detail came in for info on the item and appropriate pricing.

GC started calling me...ordinarily AFTER they'd made a purchase and wanted to get an idea on how to price it.
One mean solar day they chosen to tell me they'd bought a 12/13/16/22 Clear Vistalite kit. I asked what they had in it. Answer:$1,500
Shocked , I told them they'd just paid loftier full retail for the kit.I suggested they tag it anywhere from $1,750 to 2K and for them to promise to God someone comes in and only " has to have " that set in club to pay that price.

Whatever...the GC in Columbus used to phone call me also with some of the same scenarios.
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chetatkinsdiet

I'g not defending GC, but they put this into identify a few years back to try to control information technology a bit more when the vintage markets were going through the roof. They had guys in departments taking in used gear and flipping to their buddies for well under market value. And so, the only option that they saw was to accept their "burst brothers" in Hollywood sort of control the pricing of said items. Those guys are mainly guitar-centric, so they take a few folks in their network that know drums. In that location's a director in the Ft. Worth store that is pretty good with vintage drums and maybe a few others that they'll ship questions to them on pricing, etc.

I do hold that they've sort of gone overboard and non really "corrected" with the residual of u.s.a. since the big "vintage gear market crash of 09". I see a lot of ridiculous pricing on things.

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ScottGunshore

I have cracking experience buying used gear from GC... mostly cymbals that were priced less than what I would even pay here. What they considered "scratches or wear" were hardly evident when I received the detail.

Having said that, I've never bought vintage gear from them. I'd have to cheque the gear out in person to be comfortable, which wasn't the instance on the cymbals.

I imagine newer snares, for instance, could fall under the good deal category, merely I haven't been in the market place for anything I've establish... hence all my posting on the bargain threads .

Snaffoo

I've likewise had some good luck buying used gear from GC...

A few years back GC was having a blowout sale on used stuff, I bought an original Pearl Jeff Pocaro drum rack with 9 clamps and 5 cymbal holders for $50.00

I thought that I would use it but found the affair also cumbersome and besides high for my liking.

Flipped it in about two weeks on the bay for $200.

There have been others deals too but I can only imagine how little they would pay for something similar this and even so sell it at a profit.

Scott

CaptainCrunch

I absolutely know that the stooges at the Thou.C. in my hometown would pay pennies and sell it to their buddies for cheap, or simply keep it themselves.

I will swear on a copy of "Ace Of Spades" this story is true..
In 2004, this snot-nosed niggling backwards-cherry-cap-skeezy-piffling-goateed creep comes into the vintage store, says he has a Sonor and he wants to know what it's worth. The dominate, crotchety former bastard that he is says something along the lines of "Information technology's worth what someone volition give you for it - bring it in if y'all want to sell it", his standard answer. This child keeps talking because he thinks he's only oh-so-clever, says he works at One thousand.C. and they got this giant dark wood Sonor kit in that mean solar day. Him and his buddy were going to separate it upward because it was soooo big. 2-24"s, 2 floors, and it sounded like basically every single tom size. He said they could tell it was really heavy when the old guy was having a hard time carrying information technology in. The drum department manager was out for dejeuner or something, and the drones couldn't buy anything that big without his say-then. The old guy waited and waited, and somewhen got tired of it, asked the employees to help load it back up, simply this child claimed it's "non allowed".

And so the guy says, "Y'know what? I'm not carrying that affair out again. I just want rid of it." And leaves. Those petty turds had that rosewood Sonor Phonic loaded out the dorsum door into their cars probably before the onetime guy made information technology out of the lot.

We were flabbergasted that he was cackling most it. When he asked once again "what's information technology worth, then?" My boss told him to go his little thief ass the F out of his store, and to never bad come up back, and that goes for all his trivial P.O.S. friends too. If he'd had a baseball bat handy, I'thousand pretty sure he would have chased him out with it.

Long story, I know, but #1. I understand why they have to endeavor and continue a tight leash on the vintage gear ownership/pricing and #2. F Guitar Eye. That place sucks.

mudjacker2

Was in GC just final calendar week and they had a used 18" A Custom Crash on display as the 'deal of the solar day' for $79.00. I immediately said Ill take it, without even trying it out. Figured it'd fit right in with my 14 and xvi's. As he prepared to ring me up, I lifted the cymbal off the rack and noticed a big 4" fissure. When I pointed it out, the guy says "oh, at that place are actually two cracks"....yup, some other ane at the base of operations of the bell.....needless to say, I didnt buy it and it WASNT the deal of the day.....deceit believe they even sell that kinda junk, let alone for $80.....

stickinthemud

Word I got from a clerk in the pulsate department at the Arlignton, TX shop is that their rule of thumb is to pay 50% of what an item sells for on eBay.

I have had good luck at GC for the most role. I picked up a used five-piece Pearl Forum shell pack in gloss blackness with Evans EC2 coated heads, everything in very good shape, for $189. They tuned up nicely, and I had some coin left over to play buy a nice set of Sabians. I accept, over the years, had occasion to buy cymbals for some of the churches I have played for, and have managed to go some very squeamish used cymbals at very reasonable prices. With a thirty-solar day return policy, it'southward easy to feel good about a purchase. Modify your mind? Bring it back.

Formula428

Was in GC just last calendar week and they had a used 18" A Custom Crash on display as the 'deal of the day' for $79.00. I immediately said Ill have information technology, without fifty-fifty trying it out. Figured information technology'd fit right in with my fourteen and sixteen's. Every bit he prepared to ring me upward, I lifted the cymbal off the rack and noticed a big 4" crack. When I pointed it out, the guy says "oh, at that place are actually 2 cracks"....yup, another one at the base of the bell.....needless to say, I didnt purchase it and it WASNT the deal of the solar day.....cant believe they even sell that kinda junk, let lone for $80.....

Regardless of who, I ALWAYS inspect my plates for cracks, keyholes, etc. In fact, I really trust eBay sellers with 100% feedback and 500+ ratings More than I trust GC.

GC is shady, no thing how y'all await at it. I'k tired of paying their astronomical prices on their gear, admittedly no willingness to haggle, poor service and no expertise, and notwithstanding when you want decent cash for a trade-in, y'all go NOTHING.

A few years ago, I was on the fence about an older bass guitar. I had owned information technology for several years. It was a 1994 Peavey TL-Half-dozen 6-string bass guitar. That model was the gem of Peavey in the 90s -- like the DW Collectors of the Peavey line. I think it retailed for depression $2000s. My particular bass guitar was in great shape, 8 out of 10, and the hardshell case was about perfect. So, I walked in (somewhat for my amusement) and asked GC what they would give me. They told me $150. I told them that the used price for this guitar was effectually $750. They again told me $150.

The adjacent week I walk in to GC. Depression and behold, I see a TL-Five (the 5-string version) that was beat to death with no hardshell instance, either. Price tag? $739.99.

Or the time I was interested in departing with my Tama IC double pedal. I was interested in getting a DW9000 double pedal in its place. I ask for the merchandise-in value for my IC (which retails for $350+). Between $79 and $99 (they weren't sure because I didn't have the pedal with me).

lossforgain

Regardless of who, I ALWAYS inspect my plates for cracks, keyholes, etc. In fact, I actually trust eBay sellers with 100% feedback and 500+ ratings More than than I trust GC.

I can't tell you lot how many times I've ordered a used cymbal off the ad on their website and specifically asked the guy on the phone to check for cracks, and been told "no cracks here - we wouldn't buy it in if information technology were cracked." And then I receive a cracked cymbal in the mail (and non from shipping). Luckily they have the return policy that allows me to accept it to my local GC (5 minutes away) - and if I tell them that I asked the question and got the wrong respond, they even refund the shipping. Have to go a manager to do it, but it can be done.

Not that the whole hassle is really worth information technology. <_<

drumnhands

Interesting subject, of which I take much feel. I worked for GC from 1992 until I left to come hither in 2003. Last 7 years was equally a Regional Managing director for the Drum division. First thing you have to remember when selling used gear to a store is that they have to take room to turn a profit on it, even after someone grinds them down on the price. The other matter to call up is that when someone comes i loking for a "used" piece, this is nigh oft a euphemism for "cheap". Equally the seller of the used piece, remember that the dealer has to invest extra time and money into cleaning the kit, new heads, fourth dimension/labor to resell information technology.You take several things into account when taking in used gear(if you're honest). First thing you have to do is find out what the seller thinks their gear is worth. This can go on you from insulting them if they are mode off on its value. You too have to consider if it's even worth taking in. Am I going to have in a Cheesemaster 2000 pulsate kit that I program to sell for $150(making $75 tops) that takes upwards the aforementioned space on the flor as a new kit that makes twice the coin? Is this a kit that I tin can fifty-fifty sell? Selling a piece to a shop doesn't leave as much room to piece of work as trading does because the new piee you're buying tin always be discounted a flake more to offset the difference due north what the shop wants to pay vs what the customer thinks his gear is worth. Any time I had someone wanting to trade a trashed kit, I would instead offer them an actress disbelieve on the new kit(unremarkably $l) and tell them to donate the old kit to a church or school for the tax write-off. Win/win for anybody.

Used hardware is tricky. It'south resale value is much lower than a new slice, especially pedals (they probably get more abuse than whatsoever other role of the kit). Equally tin can asset, used hardware has no value so information technology has to exist bought low and sold cheap. If a store were to fire, no insurance company volition pay you for used hardware. Another thing on used gear. In many places (California, for example) the dealer has to fill out a pawn ticket and sit down on the gear for tirty days before they tin sell it. In some counties it can't even exist displayed on the floor until the "police hold" is up. If the used piece comes back stolen it is forfeited and the money paid for it is lost.

Vintage gear is a whole other brute. You can't expect for a kid to know the value of a pulsate that is ii or three times his age(there are rare exceptions). To learn about vintage gear yous have to make the try to read and study, learn what is original or after marketplace, colors that a certain model were available in and how many of each colour were made, larn to audit for cracks, flaws, etc. Non many kids have that kind of passion that they will take the time to educate themselves and lookout man the market fluctuations on value. On guitars, you take the aforementioned issues, even knowing if the pots under the option guard are original. The guys at GC in Hollywood are spoiled because they get a lot of Japanese tourists that will pay elevation dollar for vintage gear and take information technology back to Japan and flip it for large profit. As for needing approval to buy or sell vintage gear from an outside source, I was visiting a store in the Bay Expanse to exercise some training. In the Director's office were most a dozen guitars leaned against the wall that the former guitar managing director bought. At that place was most $6,000 with of guitars with over $50,000 in them. Imagine trying to keep watch on 220+ stores that have a cheque book in the Manager'southward office.........

W&A Player

I want to encourage those of yous bashing GC to continue your bashing. And, please pace up the attacks with descriptions of some of the "events" that are impossible to believe are anything but made up stories. I encourage you lot to practise this for a couple of reasons. If you didn't already come beyond as being full of crap, y'all volition earn that designation before very long. And, then, for very selfish reasons, I urge yous to boycott GC stores so that I can continue getting bully deals on purchases and trades of top notch vintage drums at a few of their stores that are run past seasoned professionals. A savvy drummer/collector who understands the basics of commerce can have positive experiences when dealing with the right people in many of their stores. I have never worked for Guitar Eye, and have zero connectedness with them. I have great admiration for businesses who are leaders in their ain categories. I even admire some companies that I hate. Guitar Center is one that I admire, respect, and patronize from time to fourth dimension. They will not miss the bashers. The employees are trained to never bad mouth the competition---but get the auction by being positive. Bad apple sales staffers get weeded out quickly.

Formula428

I want to encourage those of you bashing GC to go on your bashing. And, please step up the attacks with descriptions of some of the "events" that are impossible to believe are anything but made up stories. I encourage you to do this for a couple of reasons. If you lot didn't already come up across as being total of crap, you will earn that designation before very long. And, then, for very selfish reasons, I urge you to boycott GC stores so that I can continue getting great deals on purchases and trades of top notch vintage drums at a few of their stores that are run past seasoned professionals. A savvy drummer/collector who understands the nuts of commerce tin can have positive experiences when dealing with the right people in many of their stores. I have never worked for Guitar Center, and take nix conection with them. I accept great admiration for businesses who are leaders in their own categories. I even admire some companies that I detest. Guitar Center is ane that I admire, respect, and patronize from fourth dimension to time. They volition non miss the bashers. Theemployees are trained to never bad mouth the competition---merely get the sale by being positive. Bad apple sales staffers get weeded out chop-chop.

I hope you're non calling me out, but I assure you lot that my stories are legit. The used pedal for sub-$100...eh...maybe information technology'south understandable. But the bass guitar? Seriously? I would take expected at least $350 or so for a guitar that has a used value of $750 (confirmed by their cost tag on the TL-Five)...at least...

mudjacker2

Nor am I "making upwards" my story or writing fiction....this cymbal was the Mayfield Hts store and probably still is, as this was merely concluding week....why would I lie almost something like that?.....just doesnt make sense.....

perhaps y'all are merely more fortunate to be close to a well run store....

W&A Player

Upon re-reading some of the posts and my own, I must agree with you that I probably do live in an area where the vii GC stores in the metro expanse are well run. In that location are great shop managers at some of these stores who have worked in this expanse for several years. When washed properly, gaining access to the shop managing director is fairly easy. I'm non calling out either of you lot two guys. A couple of the posts in this thread are across rude and come across every bit mean. That type of attitude volition get you nowhere in life--especially not in Chicago, my hometown.

Formula428

Word I got from a clerk in the drum section at the Arlignton, TX store is that their dominion of thumb is to pay 50% of what an detail sells for on eBay.

I have had expert luck at GC for the nigh office. I picked up a used five-piece Pearl Forum shell pack in gloss blackness with Evans EC2 coated heads, everything in very good shape, for $189. They tuned up nicely, and I had some money left over to play buy a nice set of Sabians. I have, over the years, had occasion to buy cymbals for some of the churches I have played for, and have managed to go some very nice used cymbals at very reasonable prices. With a 30-day return policy, it's piece of cake to experience good about a purchase. Change your mind? Bring it back.

The return policy does sit nicely, though there is a "re-stocking fee" if you read the print closely. Has anyone ever been striking with the re-stocking fee from GC?

Personally, I've only returned two things to GC. The first was a pair of sticks (unused of grade), because I accidentally bought the wrong pair and didn't notice until I got home. No big bargain and I but switched them out.

Withal, the second was a Paiste PST5 ride over last summertime. It had a good dry tone, which is what I was looking for. Yes, I did play it for a day. When I went to return the cymbal, it often crossed my heed if they were going to slap the fifteen% or 20% (any it is) re-stocking fee on me. I ended upwards returning the PST5 cymbal and bought a K Custom Dry Ride and Used Sabian HH Raw Bell Dry out Ride (together that same 24-hour interval). And then, obviously they weren't going to brand me mad when I was returning a $125 cymbal and buying $330 and $250 cymbals (plus discounts)...but would I have gotten charged if I didn't purchase more cymbals that day?

FWIW -- the Sabian HH RBDR was actually keyholed e'er then slightly. I didn't discover that until I got home, just information technology sure didn't prompt them to marking the price down... The cymbal sounded good and the keyholing wasn't bad at all, and so I didn't care enough to render information technology.

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